MIKE BACHHUBER: So the next section, you know, it started out with a discussion of stigma, because stigma is a term we hear about all the time. It's a very popular term these days, especially when talking about people with psychiatric disabilities. We need to fight stigma. And I think it's because folks recognize that the way people get treated once they get a diagnosis of a mental illness is very different. Dan talks about constitutional rights and, and psychiatric law, basic laws and psychiatric laws, and that is kind of the issue. A lot of folks, though, really, including myself, don't like that term stigma. Stigma means a mark and so I used stigma in quotes, in my title here, because that's a term that a lot of folks are familiar with. But I think what we really need to talk about is attitudes. We need to talk about prejudice that people experience, we need to talk about fears that people experience, that lead to prejudice and discrimination, and the discrimination itself, the acts that happen. When someone is fired or encouraged to quit, or not given an accommodation that they need, those are actions, those are observable, those are something that we can do something about. Those are something that the law can provide a remedy. And so instead of talking about stigma, I think it is important to talk more about prejudice, fears and discrimination and I think we're going to do that, more of that after lunch, but what we wanted to do was, and Tim, am I right here, that we need to kind of lead into, okay. So we wanted to start our training off here by having a discussion, and letting folks, letting you guys at the table talk about, a little bit about prejudice, fears, and discrimination, and so there's a slide in here that I'm going to, there we go. We're going to try to go back and make sure we didn't miss anything after lunch. But over lunch, we would like you at your tables, and if you're at a table of one, maybe you can join another table over lunch, so that we can get, you know, five or six people at a table, and talk about what happens at, at your centers. I know my experiences, since I've been doing a lot with our national organizations around mental health civil rights, I've had an opportunity to talk to people at centers around the country, and I've heard all kinds of stories. I've seen a lot of good things or I've heard a lot of good things, and I've heard a lot of bad things. And so we thought that over lunch, it might be useful for you all to share some of those experiences you have at your centers. We're heading towards providing more information on, at the center level, how to serve people with psychiatric disabilities better, and so focusing on what you've experienced in your IL life. And then, let's see, so the question that we want you to talk about is what barriers around prejudice, discrimination, fears and cultural competence has your center confronted with regard to people with psychiatric disabilities? And then afterwards we're going to have a little report out on that, and an opportunity, maybe you can have at least one person from each table be prepared to summarize the discussion that you had. Did any themes come up? Are there certain things you're seeing in your center? If you're at a table with group from several centers, you may notice that things are happening, not just at your center, but at other centers as well. And we're going to try to put that up and then have more of a group discussion all together after lunch. I thought I heard someone asking a question. So with that, I think, and then we will go back and as part of that discussion after lunch, we'll make sure that we're not missing any of the discussion about prejudice, fears, and discrimination. And with that, we'll hand it over to our logistic coordinator, Tim.